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Post by Ahti Lemminkainen on Jul 12, 2005 18:02:45 GMT -5
Lemminkainen spends the night wandering through Moscow finding himself even more lost than he was the day before. On the second day of being lost, he comes across a goose. "Whhooah, is that you?" He asks the goose. The goose honks in recognition. "How did you get here?" He asks the goose. "I guess it doesn't matter. You came to save me. Lead the way goose, I trust you can find the others." And Lemminkainen starts following the goose.
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Post by Punch and Judy Libertine on Jul 12, 2005 18:46:11 GMT -5
"Oh, Punch and Judy shows are fun!" Judy says, clapping her hands in glee. She pauses.
"I kind of wish Punch and I had chosen different, more egalitarian names though. Personally, I wanted Jack and Jill. Not that it matters. Names are names are names. Anyway, Punch and Judy shows are all about Mr. Punch. Mr. Punch is a hunchback, who kills his own baby by throwing it out a window. Then, his wife, Judy finds out. She tries to hit him, but he beats her to death. Mr. Punch proceeds to hang the hangman, scare away a ghost, kill a crocodile, and trick the devil himself. There is no good or evil in Mr. Punch, just success. Mr. Punch lives forever," Judy says, grinning.
Judy licks the pulp around the edge of her glass.
"Honestly, I think the best thing we can do as nihilists is to do everything we can to fuck morality. Shame is a product of society and false truths."
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 12, 2005 19:14:40 GMT -5
Heikki nods.
"If I hurt someone, I feel a sense of guilt or shame for doing it. It may be my own problem for being too attached to people or too programmed by this world to follow moral codes. And in the cases where I felt no shame for something which by society's standards would be cruel, I felt afraid of punishment." Heikki replies and drinks some of the juice.
"It is something that I wrestle with. Since we do live with the consequences of our actions. For instance, it may benefit society to do acts of terrorism, since it could potentially free them from government and lies, but, I am afraid for myself. I don't want to die and I don't want to go to prison."
"Or, if I joined some nihilist orgy, I think it would hurt a friend of mine, and I would have to live with the consequences of that."
"I am confined by fear and compassion, but they come to me as naturally as sleep and hunger. I am not sure that I can circumvent them."
"But I think you both came at a good time. I have had some questions in my mind and it is good to have someone to bounce them off of."
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 12, 2005 19:24:16 GMT -5
As we approach Britain we are given further directions and redirected to Belfast instead of London. We begin our descent, which is much slower than the ascent...
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Post by Victoria Thistle on Jul 12, 2005 19:31:54 GMT -5
I go to a cafe and wait for Calithin. We agreed to meet later this week for brunch. While I am waiting I look over the news. There are some good things and some bad things. What happened in Japan is a good thing, but, the events in France and the death of the Queen are both bad things. I think I would like to travel to Japan to learn more about that situation.
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Post by Hope Dayspring on Jul 12, 2005 19:41:25 GMT -5
Because of the death of the Queen, I don't have to work today. Instead I stay at home taking care of my plants.
I think about the events in France and they frighten me a little. I don't want to believe that revolution is starting already.
But, it seems like things are going differently than I thought they would or I read that they had. I don't remember ever reading that Germany had gone fascist or that France had a revolution. I am sure that the history books could have been censored or that I misunderstood some details, but it just seems strange and that events are different than they were in the accounts of revolutionaries living in this period.
I try not to worry about it. In fact, I have a hard time believing anything. Sometimes I wonder if all of my experiences were a dream or a hallucination. Maybe I am just an average person with a vivid imagination for what the future could be like.
"Did I really live through that? Or was it just a dream?"
"I ...don't know any more."
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Post by Helvi Toivonen on Jul 12, 2005 19:45:54 GMT -5
I wake up and go downstairs, since I hear quite a few voices. I peek my head downstairs and notice that Seiji is there.
That makes me a little nervous, so I go back upstairs to Zivon.
I shake his shoulder to wake him up.
"Zivon...Zivon...your friend is here. Seiji..." I whisper.
"And I think I heard Judy's voice in the kitchen but I am not sure."
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Post by Selja Hakalamaki on Jul 12, 2005 19:48:43 GMT -5
The phone rings, and both Tom and Cambridge are busy working on their articles so I get up and grab the phone, and sit down as soon as I can. "Hello?" I say.
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Post by Ilmari Hoito on Jul 12, 2005 19:50:47 GMT -5
"Hello, I was just calling to see how things were going in London." Ilmari replies and sits down on the sofa. He turns on the fan near the sofa and sighs. "It is too bad that I am here in Helsinki. I would have liked to traveled to France and be a part of what's happening there."
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Post by Punch and Judy Libertine on Jul 12, 2005 19:51:51 GMT -5
Punch signs something to Judy.
"Hee hee hee, Punch says you are fun to talk to. Anyway, we're animals. We are made of the same worthless shit as everyone else. When we die, we are dead. Why should we deny ourselves while we are living? Why should we give a fuck about other people, unless we like them, or they benefit us in some way. That is why Punch and I have not joined Das Ende. Organizations are contrary to nihilism. While I acknowlege that the only way to achieve real, lasting political change is to destroy, why bother, really? Consequences are the ripples of false truths. What we do does not matter. Some people are depressed by this prospect. We find it liberating."
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Post by Selja Hakalamaki on Jul 12, 2005 20:00:05 GMT -5
"Well I'm glad things are going well up your way. It's actually going fairly well here too. I don't think I have that much longer though, maybe a month or so, so I will be heading your way before long." I say in reference to my baby.
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 12, 2005 20:01:23 GMT -5
"Well I think people join Das Ende since they want to change things, but they don't have the resources as individuals, so they come together so they can plot larger things and get access to bigger bombs and more powerful weapons. That organization is flawed and not really in the spirit of nihilism, in that it does have a central figure. But I can see how nihilists might join with other nihilists if they were serious about doing bigger things. And for the most part, they do accomplish more than I could as an individial." Heikki replies.
"And that is the thing. We are animals, but we are social animals. I think we need each other for survival, which is why community and compassion are a part of our nature and history as much as self interest."
"I am trying to find the line between the rejection of morals and acting as a complete sociopath."
"To have no empathy for others and to do harm to others, restrained only by the fear of punishment, is to be a sociopath. I don't think society would be very pleasant if we all acted like sociopaths."
"There must be a way to reject morality, but recognise that the well being of others an essential part of our own survival and personal happiness."
"I don't know...maybe I am just confused. I am confused..."
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Post by Ilmari Hoito on Jul 12, 2005 20:04:04 GMT -5
Ilmari never said that things were fine in Helsinki and feels that Selja is being oblivious to his plight. But then again, he is tired and overly sensitive. "Oh that's nice. Well, It will be good to have some company here. It does get a little lonely and you are one of my few friends."
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Post by Selja Hakalamaki on Jul 12, 2005 20:06:05 GMT -5
"Well my parents want to see me, but I won't be able to do a lot with them since I'm pregnant and can't walk a lot. I'm sure I'll have plenty of time to visit you."
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Post by Ilmari Hoito on Jul 12, 2005 20:09:04 GMT -5
"That will be nice. Are you sure you couldn't come sooner? You could always stay over here, I am sure that my mother and aunt wouldn't mind having an extra person around and there is plenty of room."
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