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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 1:42:05 GMT -5
"Well... Generally it's a lethal game. But if we were to catch terrorists alive we'd turn them into the proper authorities. And unfortunately we have yet to complete a mission." I say, not wanting to say that the reason we didn't catch Sweeney yet is because I was wasting time sleeping with Mischa.
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 1:46:40 GMT -5
"Oh, so ...that's what happens." He says and feels a little paranoid that really she is after him and that she is using the Cambridge visit as an excuse to arrest him. "Well...you know, I know we don't ever talk, but maybe we should become better friends. I really liked the time we spent together on the train. I have changed a lot since then too. I am finding myself finally."
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 1:50:01 GMT -5
"Well sure, I don't see why not." I reply to his comment that to me sounded almost like a botched proposal... "We may not agree politically but we get along well enough. Most of my friends are socialists, even though I'm not, so I don't see why we couldn't be friends."
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 1:52:52 GMT -5
"Good, I need more friends. Most of my friends are anarchists and nihili..nihilists, but I am sure we could get along." He says and feels a little less nervous.
"You look...um...better than the last time I saw you....life is going good for you?" He says, trying to get on her good side but doing a bad job at it. He wonders if she is armed and plans on just assassinating him.
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 1:56:09 GMT -5
"It's been okay. I've made two attempts so far to get a boyfriend and failed both times. But I still think I'm happier than I was, with this job I feel like I'm doing something important." I say. I am always armed, and this is pretty much common knowlege, but I don't plan on killing anyone today.
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 1:58:34 GMT -5
"Want to...go for a walk. It's really nice out." Heikki suggests. He wipes some sweat off his forehead. "Yes, you do important work." He agrees.
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 2:01:44 GMT -5
I look at the breakfast, and immediately shut off the burner and grab a Tupperware bowl. "Sure. I'll just reheat this when we get back." I say as I put the food in the bowl, put the lid on, write 'Cambridge' on a piece of tape and put the tape on the bowl, and then put it in the refridgerator. That way if sie wakes up before I get back sie can get hir own breakfast. "I can't be gone very long because Cambridge and I were going to do voulinteer work at the hospital."
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 2:05:51 GMT -5
"That's nice. We can go for a short walk then. I've been doing volunteer work too." Heikki says as they head out the door. "I am trying to...do good things..."
"I believe that doing good things is...well, it gives a person a natural high. That's why we don't believe in prisons or police....we think that people and society would benefit more if people were rehabilitated through community service and reconciliation with those that they did injurry to."
"It is more wholesome. No one benefits by executing criminals or locking them away in prisons. It is expensive and detrimental to the human psychological and emotional state since we are social by nature..."
"So...here in Paris, we have done away with the prisons..."
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 2:08:23 GMT -5
I pause for a second. "Is that wise? I mean a lot of those people are dangerous. Like very dangerous. And if they have no punishment to fear what's to stop them from committing more crimes?"
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 2:15:49 GMT -5
"Well many people are in prison for things that we don't believe are dangerous to society. Like drug possession, theft, or smaller crimes like that. Other criminals, such as socio paths, make up a small percent of the prison population. They are now in group homes with psychologists who are trying to help them or at least understand them. We think that all criminals, with perhaps the exception of socio paths, can be rehabilitated with help. And since most crimes are crimes against the property and wealth of others, we don't really see them as all that criminal."
"The goal is to create a positive environment which prevents crime...."
"Since not all societies have had prisons and such. Like native Alaskan groups who punished individuals by singing or humming about the crime whereever they went. It that instance, punishment was shaming."
"Not that I agree with that, but I think crime and punishment have varied from culture to culture with different results. I don't think that the current model is healthy for individuals or society as a whole."
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 2:19:28 GMT -5
"Well I don't agree, but if you want to get along with me I would suggest changing the subject." I say firmly but nicely. "Like what I want to know is how you've managed to keep a stable economy without an organized infrastructure."
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 2:27:55 GMT -5
"Anarchists, socialists, social democrats, and many others believe in the what I just told you about punishment in rehabilation. But considering your job, I suppose it would be difficult for you to think in those terms." He replies and lets the topic drop.
"Well, things are far from stable. But, we are working at it. People continue to work since they know things have to get done. And without the bosses they feel a little happier at work, like they really have a say in something. People directly benefit from what they do so that is an incentive. And, since at most work places other employees do the book work and managing for the owners, it isn't as though people lack experience." He states.
"But there are shortages in some areas while we figure out production and how to cooperate."
"There have been factory take overs in the past, and people produced just fine without bosses or others telling them what to do. This is just on a much larger scale."
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Post by Rei "Zero" Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 2:31:28 GMT -5
I am confused by this, since in the industrial world management is just as important as production: Without it what is to stop production from making the wrong parts or that sort of thing. "Well I'm sure you'll figure it out." I say, for myself sure that soon things will go back to the way they were.
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Post by Heikki Toivonen on Jul 28, 2005 2:40:35 GMT -5
"I don't know. I never had a job that I didn't feel that the workers could keep the business running without the bosses or the managers. But maybe my work has been simple." Heikki says with a shrug.
He hands her some information on Argentinian Factory takeovers.
"If this helps you, you can read over what happened in Argentina with some factory takeovers. That might help you understand the situation and how factories can work without bosses..." He says and hands her some literature.
.....(from an anarchist website... )
Faced with the closure of their workplaces in the face of the deepening economic crisis, workers have started to occupy and run them themselves. Workers have seized control of scores of foundering factories across Argentina. In some cases, they are doing even better than their previous owners. It is still early days, with over 100 factories and other businesses nationwide being taken over. Most of the takeovers have been of factories, but they have also included a supermarket, a medical clinic, a Patagonian mine and a Buenos Aires shipyard. Most of the occupied factories, have introduced an egalitarian pay scale. Equality is also applied in terms of power, with decisions being made by direct vote in regular assemblies, with shop stewards and co-ordinators subject to carrying out the grassroots' mandate.
Moreover, most of the workplaces have been turned into co-operatives, rather than socialised (which is to be expected as the movement has just began). These new co-operatives have survived in the economic crisis for many reasons. The elimination of the owners' cut and the higher wages paid to managerial staff have helped, as has the replacement of a few minds with that of the whole workforce. Apart from saving thousands of jobs and softening the precipitous decline of the nation's once formidable industrial production, the factory takeovers are showing that the relationship between capital and labour need not exist. By restarting production in the occupied factories, the workers have shown that a class of owners and order givers are not required, that working people can manage their own productive activity. They have set an example to the working class that there is an alternative way out of economic crisis, one which working class people can create by their own self-activity and self-organisation.
While many of the occupations have been occurring within a legal framework, with some even renting the factory, the movement has the potential of being more widespread and becoming more revolutionary. The danger is that these new worker-owned workplaces become an end in themselves, with the revolution stopping at the factory doors. Either the co-operatives will co-operate between themselves and federate together into worker's councils or they will slowly but surely degenerate back towards capitalism. Moreover, they seem limited to expropriating closed workplaces. The next step has to be the expropriation of all capital by workers' associations.
Needless to say, have begun to alarm conservatives, who (correctly) view them as a threat to private property rights. But in an economy that has so long placed profit above people, these occupations have popular support and are spreading.
Co-ordination is, correctly, viewed as essential. The workers in the occupied Zanón ceramics factory in Neuquén, have already convened two National meetings of occupied factories. 40 neighbourhood assemblies were also involved in this meeting. Thus links between workplace and community assemblies are being forged. For example, in March, about 200 people from neighbourhood assemblies and human rights groups converged on the worker-controlled Brukman textile factory, forcing the retreat of 70 riot police who were acting on a judge's order to reclaim the property. The workers of the occupied factories are also raising the need for a National Congress convened by the assemblies, the picketers and the occupied factories.
The occupied factories are part of a general tendency for the direct expropriation of capital by the people. As well as factories, occupations of houses, supermarkets and hospitals are also occurring. One anarchist has termed this process as the first time that Zapatismo has been applied in the cities
"I promised that I would volunteer at a day care center today, so I have to get going." Heikki says and walks off. He heaves a sigh of relief that he was able to escape her before she decided to kill him.
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Post by Seiji Usagi on Jul 28, 2005 2:46:28 GMT -5
Seiji wanders around for a while, feeling a little upset that Nadya was so rude to him. He goes for a stroll, but is headed in no particular direction. He crosses his arms and looks around at the scenery of the city, not paying attention to where he is going.
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